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Draft Meeting Minutes: February 13, 2020
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Elections Commission<br>
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City and County of San Francisco<br>
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Open Source Voting System Technical Advisory Committee<br>
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Christopher Jerdonek, Chair<br>
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Roan Kattouw, Vice Chair<br>
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Carl Hage<br>
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Tony Wasserman<br>
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MEETING MINUTES (DRAFT)<br>
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Open Source Voting System Technical Advisory Committee (OSVTAC)<br>
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of the San Francisco Elections Commission<br>
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Thursday, February 13, 2020<br>
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6:00 p.m.<br>
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City Hall, Room 421<br>
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1 Dr. Carlton B. Goodlett Place<br>
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San Francisco, California 94102<br>
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**Order of Business**
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**1\. Call to Order & Roll Call**
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Chair Jerdonek called the meeting to order at 6:01 p.m. Present: Members
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Hage, Jerdonek, Kattouw, Wasserman. The committee has one vacancy.
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**2\. General Public Comment**
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None.
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**3\. VotingWorks Presentation**
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Chair Jerdonek reported that Ben Adida of VotingWorks had to cancel his
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appearance at today's meeting. He was very apologetic but would like to
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attend the April meeting if possible.
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The committee proceeded to discuss VotingWorks's open source risk-limiting
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audit (RLA) software anyways, which is called Arlo and is the successor
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of the RLA software written by Free & Fair and used by the State of Colorado.
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After discussion, Member Wasserman moved that TAC adopt the following
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recommendation for presentation to the Elections Commission, the Department
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of Technology, and the Department of Elections:
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> TAC recommends that the Department of Elections and the Department of Technology review the status and roadmap of the open source Arlo project (available at https://github.com/votingworks/arlo) for possible use for risk-limiting audits in San Francisco (including for ranked-choice voting contests) and to report on the findings and use them in future planning.
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Seconded by Member Hage.
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Public comment: None.
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The motion passed unanimously (4 - 0).
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**4\. Los Angeles County VSAP (Voting Solutions for all People)**
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Chair Jerdonek reported that Los Angeles County's VSAP was in the news a lot
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recently and mentioned the documents in the agenda packet. Member Hage
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summarized the background and some of the recent controversy.
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The committee proceeded to discuss some of these issues, including whether
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LA County would ever make the system open source.
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Chair Jerdonek mentioned that Smartmatic contacted him about the hardware
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that Smartmatic manufactured for Los Angeles County's VSAP. They will be
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selling that hardware to other jurisdictions and are willing to answer
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questions.
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The committee also discussed California SB 360 (2013-2014), which includes
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the requirement of being disclosed source.
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Public comment: None.
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**5\. San Francisco's Open Source Voting Project**
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Chair Jerdonek reported that he delivered to the Commission TAC's
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recommendation of nine "next steps" for the open source voting project that
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TAC adopted at its last meeting. The Commission voted to request that
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Director Gerull provide her response to the recommendations, so that should
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be happening next week.
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Chair Jerdonek also summarized an open letter that a group named OSES (Open Source Election Systems) sent to the City and County of San Francisco.
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TAC discussed the contents of the letter.
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Member Kattouw said the letter sounded appealing, but it lacked details.
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Member Wasserman said he wanted to see a roadmap.
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Member Wasserman moved that TAC invite representatives of OSES to attend one
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of TAC's next meetings at their earliest convenience, to discuss details
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around their letter. Seconded by Member Kattouw.
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Public comment: None.
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The motion passed unanimously (4 - 0).
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**6\. Approval of Minutes of Previous Meetings**
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Chair Jerdonek apologized that he didn't have any of the draft minutes
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documents ready, so this agenda item was skipped.
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**7\. Administration**
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Committee members said our regular next meeting day of March 12 would work
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for everyone. Member Kattouw can attend the next Elections Commission meeting
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to report on TAC's activities.
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Member Kattouw reported that he had started the tri-annual report that was
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due in January but hadn't finished it yet. Chair Jerdonek thought it would
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be better to have the report ready for next month's meeting as opposed to
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trying to finish it during the meeting.
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Public comment: None.
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**8\. Member Reports**
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Member Hage reported that he read the California Voting System Standards
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(CVSS). He noticed that in doing our own recommendations document, we were
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rewriting a lot of that content. He said that the CVSS requires all reports
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produced by the system to be digitally signed, but he has never seen evidence
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of digitally signed files. He was wondering if this issue could be taken
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up by the Commission on a broader scale.
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Member Hage said he found that a number of other counties use OmniBallot,
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so he was able to get more data, including translations.
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Chair Jerdonek gave an update on Santa Clara County's Citizens' Advisory Commission on Elections (CACE) motion to support collaborating with
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San Francisco on an open source voting system. They want to know what
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collaborating with San Francisco would "look like." Chair Jerdonek said
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they need to be in touch with Director Gerull to find this answer, so he is
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working on connecting them.
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Public comment: None.
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**9\. Topics for future discussion**
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Member Wasserman mentioned two items: inviting OSES to a future meeting,
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and seeing if the committee can have further discussion with the Department
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of Technology.
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Member Hage suggested discussing the results of any research we do on
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RLA software.
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Chair Jerdonek asked the committee members if they would be interested in
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having Smartmatic attend to discuss their hardware, since we are already
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having OSES and VotingWorks. Committee members thought sometime over the
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summer might be good, after OSES speaks with us in March and VotingWorks in
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April.
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Public comment: None.
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**10\. Voting System Component Development**
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*Attendance for the remainder of the meeting is optional for committee members, as noted in the agenda.*
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Member Wasserman departed at the beginning of this item.
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Member Hage reported on his progress, including processing the OmniBallot
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data. Member Kattouw noted that the Department of Elections had posted the
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HTML summary for the zero report, but not any of the detail files. Member
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Hage asked if there was any way we could find the date the detail files will
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be available.
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Members agreed to schedule a special meeting to work on ORR either the
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Friday before the election, or the weekend before that, depending on the
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availability of rooms and when the zero report data would be ready from
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the Department.
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Committee members discussed possibilities for reporting more detailed
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registration data, including registration by party.
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Public comment: None.
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**Adjourned at 9:19 p.m.**

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1. [Draft February 13, 2020 Minutes](/meetings/2020/2020-02-13/minutes-draft)
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2. [Draft February 28, 2020 Minutes](/meetings/2020/2020-02-28/minutes-draft)
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| Date | Agenda & Packet* | Minutes | Audio / Video** |
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| Fri, February 28, 2020 | [HTML](meetings/2020/2020-02-28/agenda) / [PDF](files/meetings/2020/2020-02-28/2020_02_28_OSVTAC_Agenda.pdf) | [HTML (Draft)](meetings/2020/2020-02-28/minutes-draft) | [2 hr 20 min (YT)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttuIfFPg94E) |
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| Thurs, February 13, 2020 | [HTML](meetings/2020/2020-02-13/agenda) / [PDF](files/meetings/2020/2020-02-13/2020_02_13_OSVTAC_Agenda.pdf) | TBA | [3 hr 19 min (YT)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beEoKDYKaHY) |
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| Thurs, February 13, 2020 | [HTML](meetings/2020/2020-02-13/agenda) / [PDF](files/meetings/2020/2020-02-13/2020_02_13_OSVTAC_Agenda.pdf) | [HTML (Draft)](meetings/2020/2020-02-13/minutes-draft) | [3 hr 19 min (YT)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beEoKDYKaHY) |
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| Thurs, January 9, 2020 | [HTML](meetings/2020/2020-01-09/agenda) / [PDF](files/meetings/2020/2020-01-09/2020_01_09_OSVTAC_Agenda.pdf) | TBA | [3 hr 6 min (YT)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2E8jXtyO5I) |
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