nvidia-open-dkms issue

[xplatinum]

Which ISO version are you using?

2025.04.01 and 2025.05.01

The installation log

no log see description.

describe the problem

I don't have the /var/log/archinstall/install.log log at this time because reinstalled using 2025.03.01 instead which is the last ISO that did not give me any trouble. Anything onwards won't work as expected.

Description of the issue

Using out of the box archinstall version, no updates. I select nvidia-open-dkms in the list of drivers. Upon getting to the desktop and trying to change the refresh rate I only have 60hz and 99hz available instead of the 144hz I usually select.

I ran pacman -Qs nvidia and noticed that some packages were, I think, missing.

I have also tried updating archinstall using pacman prior to starting the installation. Same results.

[CelestifyX]

The problem is probably that the open source driver itself is not very stable, why do you use the open source driver and not the proprietary one? Do you think that the open source one is better than the proprietary one?

[xplatinum]

The issue is non-existent on 2025.03.01 using the same driver selection in arch install. Both snapshots install the same thing. I'm thinking that the script isn't installing everything that's needed. I'm using open source because it's what's recommended and towards what Nvidia is shifting their efforts.

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[CelestifyX]

Nvidia's open source driver is currently wildly unstable, Nvidia provides a proprietary driver, which is what is recommended to install if you don't have a very old video card

[xplatinum]

It's the open source version that's recommended for newer cards.

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On Fri, May 9, 2025, 3:40 PM old ***@***.***> wrote: *CelestifyX* left a comment (archlinux/archinstall#3448) <#3448 (comment)> Nvidia's open source driver is currently wildly unstable, Nvidia provides a proprietary driver, which is what is recommended to install if you don't have a very old video card — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#3448 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ANF5J73LKHDHMMQ4OZ5WLTT25UAEPAVCNFSM6AAAAAB4XKWVY2VHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43OSLTON2WKQ3PNVWWK3TUHMZDQNRXG4YTOMJQHA> . You are receiving this because you authored the thread.Message ID: ***@***.***>

[CelestifyX]

No, what kind of nonsense are you talking about? Open drivers are developed by enthusiasts, but not by Nvidia itself.

[xplatinum]

No, what kind of nonsense are you talking about? Open drivers are developed by enthusiasts, but not by Nvidia itself.

Maybe you should educate yourself on the topic before being so rude. I very clearly said that the driver was nvidia-open-dkms and it's developed by NVIDIA themselves.

The open source driver is recommended in the arch wiki.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/NVIDIA

NVIDIA Transitions Fully Towards Open-Source GPU Kernel Modules
https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/nvidia-transitions-fully-towards-open-source-gpu-kernel-modules/

[CelestifyX]

There is no point in proving it to you, unfortunately.

[CelestifyX]

And why was I rude?

I recommended you to use proprietary drivers for new video cards for now, for old ones - you can use open ones. You can also ask some AI, and it will give you exactly the same will recommend :)

[xplatinum]

You said the open version was community driven : FALSE, it's developed and released by nvidia themselves. You're referring to nouveau which I am not.

I told you it's recommended in the arch wiki and I provided a link where it clearly states that. You ignored that part.

Why should I trust AI when it's written black on white in the arch wiki?

You also totally skipped over the part where I said I had ZERO issues with nvidia-open-dkms using the 2025.03.01 snapshot.

[xplatinum]

Oh and I asked ChatGPT to help you prove your point, but it proved mine instead.

For the RTX 4070 Ti Super: Yes, the open kernel modules (nvidia-open-dkms) are supported and recommended if you're using a modern GPU like yours and you're on a kernel version that supports them.

[CelestifyX]

https://chatgpt.com/share/681e6cee-8394-8002-a151-6e2d850f0c66

[CelestifyX]

It's not even about the AI, I have an RTX 4070, and my proprietary driver works much better than the open one, better performance in games, and other things, but of course it's your business

But this issue does not apply to the installer)

[xplatinum]

To whoever can assist, here's the output from both 03.01 and 05.01 after booting to the desktop using nvidia-open-dkms. There's packages missing. Both VMs were installed using the exact same options in archinstall.

https://i.imgur.com/MNzbKx6.png

[CelestifyX]

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[Torxed]

To whoever can assist, here's the output from both 03.01 and 05.01 after booting to the desktop using nvidia-open-dkms. There's packages missing. Both VMs were installed using the exact same options in archinstall.

https://i.imgur.com/MNzbKx6.png

I'm wondering if pacman -S nvidia-utils solves your issue alone, or if the wayland packages are required too?
I am not an expert on the nvidia packages, but I wild guess would be that either nvidia-utils would contain something missing.. or this is a wayland specific issue and then the wayland packages might solve it.